Posts by Kurgar

Thanks, I don't mind (and would likely welcome) the randomness, if it were understood. I was looking forward to developing my Stele to positively change things (sometimes ). A more clearly understood battle system will be most welcome. As it stands, I see references to battle rounds, but after 3 weeks of the server, no battle report has ever had more than a single round.

I like that they put a certain amount of randomness in, but the difference in results from one attack to the next suggests they should either a) reduce it b) explain in reports how lucky/unlucky we got or c) check they put their brackets in the right places.

Kurgar vs Barbarians

04:47 (11 minutes ago) in: [465:513] Choop Bon

Victory!

Kurgar gained an overwhelming victory on the battlefield

Troops

Kurgar

[Tenoc] Tenochtitlan

Holcan Lancer

(0 / 1)

Polom

(88 / 95)

Shaman

(100 / 100)

Quipucamayoc

(100 / 100)

Holcan Bowman

(78 / 172)

Atlatl Hunter

(264 / 271)

Eagle Warrior

(20 / 20)

Total: 759 units

Casualties: 109 units

Can be healed: 8 units

vs

Barbarians

Wall (10)

0 / 79,729

Spy

(0 / 5)

Holcan Lancer

(0 / 510)

Shaman

(0 / 5)

Quipucamayoc

(0 / 5)

Pochteca

(0 / 4)

Holcan Bowman

(0 / 168)

Atlatl Hunter

(0 / 5)

Eagle Warrior

(0 / 1)

Jaguar Warrior

(0 / 1)

Total: 705 units

Casualties: 705 units

Can be healed: 77 units

Round details

Attacker Kurgar
Defender Barbarians




Round 1
677 units
66 units


Round 2
650 units
0 units

Results

The battle ended after 2 rounds and with 814 casualties.

Winner: Kurgar

The army of the attacker Kurgar has pillaged Choop Bon [465:513]

Original cargo: 213,640

Booty: 74,334 52,358 36,242

I'm getting too lazy to edit out the spaces, so they'll have to fix reports so we can link them. Anyway, more smart guys changes things



Troops

Kurgar

[Tenoc] Tenochtitlan

Holcan Lancer

(0 / 22)

Polom

(95 / 95)

Shaman

(98 / 98)

Quipucamayoc

(81 / 81)

Holcan Bowman

(170 / 192)

Atlatl Hunter

(271 / 271)

Eagle Warrior

(20 / 20)

Total: 779 units

Casualties: 44 units

Can be healed: 3 units

vs

Barbarians

Wall (10)

0 / 79,729

Spy

(0 / 5)

Holcan Lancer

(0 / 510)

Shaman

(0 / 5)

Quipucamayoc

(0 / 5)

Pochteca

(0 / 4)

Holcan Bowman

(0 / 168)

Atlatl Hunter

(0 / 5)

Eagle Warrior

(0 / 1)

Jaguar Warrior

(0 / 1)

Total: 705 units

Casualties: 705 units

Can be healed: 56 units

Round details

Attacker Kurgar
Defender Barbarians




Round 1
735 units
20 units


Round 2
735 units
0 units

Results

The battle ended after 2 rounds and with 749 casualties.

Winner: Kurgar

The army of the attacker Kurgar has pillaged Aantik Chowakil [442:507]

Original cargo: 235,490

Booty: 74,334 52,358 36,242

It's completely screwed, compare your Lvl 4's to this one. Essentially you need a few lancers to wave a red flag at them and a few bowyers to call their mother names.

I think we need to figure out how the quipamayoc (sergeants/officers) effect things and what amount of them to use, as it's presumably important (1 for each 5 or 6 troops would make sense in terms of modern combat).

Kurgar vs Barbarians

02:00 (7 minutes ago) in: [452:530] Hachik Polok

Victory!

Kurgar gained an overwhelming victory on the battlefield

Troops
Kurgar

[Tenoc] Tenochtitlan

Holcan Lancer
(0 / 19)

Polom
(95 / 95)

Shaman
(98 / 100)

Quipucamayoc
(79 / 79)

Holcan Bowman
(188 / 236)

Atlatl Hunter
(266 / 266)

Eagle Warrior
(20 / 20)

Total: 815 units

Casualties: 69 units

Can be healed: 6 units

vs

Barbarians

Wall (10)
0 / 79,729

Spy
(0 / 5)

Holcan Lancer
(0 / 510)

Shaman
(0 / 5)

Quipucamayoc
(0 / 5)

Pochteca
(0 / 4)

Holcan Bowman
(0 / 168)

Atlatl Hunter
(0 / 5)

Eagle Warrior
(0 / 1)

Jaguar Warrior
(0 / 1)

Total: 705 units

Casualties: 705 units

Can be healed: 82 units

Round details

Attacker Kurgar
Defender Barbarians

Round 1
766 units
23 units

Round 2
746 units
0 units

Results

The battle ended after 2 rounds and with 774 casualties.

Winner: Kurgar

The army of the attacker Kurgar has pillaged Hachik Polok [452:530]

Original cargo: 236,410

Booty: 74,334 52,358 36,242

Cool, but why is a larger percentage of the barbarian's casualties eligible for healing than mine, when I have shamans, medicine, itzamma temple and carriers to go back to it with casualties/bodies etc but have chopped the barbarians into little bits, jumped up and down on their corpses and then burnt them and pissed on their ashes?

The expense of the Quetzal Palace and upgrades limits new city settling perfectly well. The L5 market thing just makes established players micro-manage a new city every time which is both pointless and tedious.

Quote from Furry

Front Line Units: Units with higher 'Weakness' always receive damage first in all 'Waves' of attack. Lancers come in to play here, as well as other units like Eagle & Jaguar Warriors, but for the most part - throughout the game - Lancers are going to be your driving force and your fodder. The exact number at which 'Weakness' comes in to play when the combat calculation beings is currently unknown, but to be safe it's always good to have high numbers of Lancers. You have to make sure that you always have them when attacking, if you send only Bowmen at an enemy, they will be slain before they can output any casualties to the enemy fortifications. Though most of this may come as common sense once it's read/realized, it's still good to keep an equal amount of units within your army, always keep it diverse.

•Weakness - The percentile value of the Attack & Defend priority of a unit. Exact Threshold of when this takes place is unknown, however, I assume that the equation works similar to this; Units with 51% or More Weakness will both Attack & Defend in Wave 1 of a Battle. Units with 50% or Less Weakness will both Attack & Defend in Wave 2 and on of a Battle.

I'm not at all convinced that this is how it works. The leading player in the game is cheerfully and successfully attacking without lancers or bowmen.

Quote from M0H0

I understand that more raids per day are always handy, but consider that as you level up you are also able to take on barbarian villages of a higher level which have a greater bounty. Targeting stronger barbarian villages as you progress is the prefered way to make the most of the allotted raids per day.

I waited a little before replying to this. While there is no decent PvP battle system (we can steal 40% max of a players res but can't damage or capture cities and players only have res spare if they log in, collect it but don't use it), PvE is all we have.

Unless you correct me, each level of barbarian city requires approximately 5 times the attack strength of the previous level, to sensibly attack. After 3 weeks + of the current server, most active players are now able to hit L3 barbs and a limited few are able to hit L4's.

Edit 5 x the attack force needed for approx 150% reward, compared to previous barbarian level.

That means that 5 attacks on barbs per day (plus maybe 2 or at most 3 more using turquoise) are the only thing separating the game from tractor games.

are small and we seem to be pointing them out to people quite often.

Why do we need a L5 market to receive resources in our own cities?

[02:36]
sebas2651:
btw point of attention for the devs.. i
think they should allow you to send some resources with your settlers
with poloms or something like that

[02:37]
Kurgar:
I didn't try, but that's an excellent idea.

[02:37]
Kurgar:
That matches real.

[02:37]
sebas2651:
i know you can only send like 1k because that is the max of resources ou can have in the beginning but...

[02:38]
sebas2651:
now i am struggling to build couz of res shortage

[02:38]
Kurgar:
Getting market to L5 in a new city is a pain.

[02:39]
sebas2651:
yea ik got it too lvl 2 now... been busy all day for it

Opponent has no shaman and no itzamma temple, but 47 troops can be healed?

Kurgar vs Mad-Dog

21/06/2015 23:17 (about an hour ago) in: [509:422] Avalon

Victory!

Kurgar gained an overwhelming victory on the battlefield

Troops

Kurgar

[Tenoc] Tenochtitlan

Holcan Lancer

(1,445 / 1,537)

Polom

(62 / 68)

Shaman

(33 / 33)

Quipucamayoc

(48 / 48)

Holcan Bowman

(205 / 205)

Atlatl Hunter

(66 / 66)

Total: 1,957 units

Casualties: 98 units

Can be healed: 10 units

vs

Mad-Dog

Wall (6)

0 / 46,032

Spy

(0 / 25)

Holcan Lancer

(0 / 200)

Polom

(0 / 20)

Quipucamayoc

(0 / 40)

Pochteca

(0 / 10)

Holcan Bowman

(0 / 90)

Total: 386 units

Casualties: 386 units

Can be healed: 47 units

Round details

Attacker Kurgar
Defender Mad-Dog

Round 1
1,859 units
0 units

Results

The battle ended after 1 rounds and with 484 casualties.

Winner: Kurgar

The army of the attacker Kurgar has pillaged Avalon [509:422]

Original cargo: 220,060

Booty: 13,769 0 12,529

As thread title says, it seems like it should be possible to persistently siege an enemy city, attacking it (for example) once per hour, without troops having to go the whole way home and back again.

I read it as a barracks for defensive troops help from other players, but the description also says "coming soon attacks with allies". Maybe that means troops lent to you that you control, but I didn't read it that way? I thought more book co-ordinated attacks with allies troops to hit at the same time?

I think Krymac and I both thought around 2000 lancers for an effective hit and this still looks about right.

Kurgar
[Tenoc] Tenochtitlan

Spy
(46 / 46)
Holcan Lancer
(1,123 / 1,451)
Polom
(68 / 68)
Shaman
(33 / 36)
Quipucamayoc
(48 / 48)
Pochteca
(27 / 30)
Holcan Bowman
(205 / 212)
Atlatl Hunter
(66 / 66)

Total: 1,957 units
Casualties: 341 units
Can be healed: 29 units

vs

Barbarians
Wall (10)
0 / 79,729

Spy
(0 / 5)
Holcan Lancer
(0 / 510)
Shaman
(0 / 5)
Quipucamayoc
(0 / 5)
Pochteca
(0 / 4)
Holcan Bowman
(0 / 168)
Atlatl Hunter
(0 / 5)
Eagle Warrior
(0 / 1)
Jaguar Warrior
(0 / 1)

Total: 705 units
Casualties: 705 units
Can be healed: 53 units

I think that's what the tambo building is for?

Please remember that I have the activity tab opened and moved to the left of my monitor.

Opening it again and moving it every time I change city or change from city to world view isn't ideal.

We have the option to share info in settings.

OK problem is my end then, I have NO scrolling in world map.

edit: I can scroll up/down, left/right but I am wanting to zoom ie see bigger areas and what tribe the cities belong to.