Speed server doesn't inherently make it more war or building friendly. Rewarding level of activity not only is ok, but should be done. Dedication to the game should be what matters. Rewarding only brute force and willingness to bully the little guy should not be rewarded, and it seems this ruleset cuts down on the rewards for bullies.
And when they bully bigger dude its ok. Besides attacking and farming isint bullying in my books. I have been in recieving end.
Builders point boost for buildings works against them. These people do not build troops 24/7 like warriors do. This means builders grow much faster as warrior minded people. Meaning they become larger and warrior who farms them is most likely smaller player. On top of that when you lose units. YOU dont lose points like in normal server. Since awhile they are in hospital. They still count in high score.
Also building troops in Itzamna Temple is actually slow and expensive too. There is no instant healing there. So in 12h you wont recover from hits you take.
Last but not least. This is high activity server. Its speed server. If you arent online enough. You will fall behind and someone will feed on you and attacks come in fast. Much faster than normal.
Ah, but what this is doing is evening out the building and war sides and maybe even tilting it in favor of building a little bit.
Well no. Sure this changes a lot of things, but game is still the same. If anything heavy builders will take biggest hits here. Calling this peace server isint really true. People who want to fight will always find a way.
Now this is interesting.
Display MoreHi Ahaus,
If you found the war server Tenochtitlan too stressful, or if you simply want to experience a more relaxed version of Tentlan, we have a new initiative that we think you'll like: on Tuesday July 18th 17:00 CEST, the first international peaceful server Edzna will begin! Here's what will be in store for this server:
- Quad speed server, build, research, recruit and travel at four times the usual speed
- The strong player protection will activate in differences of 2x points or more (instead of the usual 10x)
- All cities defeated, regardless score, get a 12 hour post-attack protection (as opposed to applying only when the defender has a score of 75% or less the attacker)
- 100% survival rate, all units defeated in battle will survive and be sent to the Itzamna Temple in all cases (as opposed to the usual 8-15% survival rate)
- Troop transfer (gifting) is disabled for all (expect between your own cities), collaborative attacks or defense can still be arranged via Tambo as usual.
- Buildings and researches will grant twice the usual amount of points
While a calmer version of Tentlan may not sound very exciting at first, we urge you to give it a try; we think a lot of you are going to be pleasantly surprised. These changes are exclusive to Edzna today, but we look forward to hearing your feedback, and if you like how this version plays it's certainly possible that it will influence the future of Tentlan.
Good luck to everyone and we hope to see you in Edzna! For any questions, feedback, concerns, etc don't hesitate to post, we are here and we listen.
Your Tentlan Team
- 100% survival rate, all units defeated in battle will survive and be sent to the Itzamna Temple in all cases (as opposed to the usual 8-15% survival rate)
- Troop transfer (gifting) is disabled for all (expect between your own cities), collaborative attacks or defense can still be arranged via Tambo as usual.
Awhile I understand peace server having 100% survival rate and I see it most positive that you are testing this. I would hope that if something like this is added to normal servers. Its more like 65% or 35%. Sizable rise would still make it easier to recover from attacks. For many its the end when months of army building ends having only 10% what you originally had and you have to pay /heal to get them.
Gifting troops.. Now there you have listened community well.. Much praises from me 
- Buildings and researches will grant twice the usual amount of points
This should make high score much more interesting to follow.
Overal I see lot of positive things here Thanks.. I consider joining just to be able give feed back
and another wish from my side to evolve this game would be that "tribe buildings" entered the game.... so there where more in the tribe gaming of tentlan.... A tribe temple or capital can be build so members from the tribe would gain benefits through tribe buildings research and other buildings... it makes alot of more responsabilities for the members and also keeps them interested in the game....
Awhile I could agree on that we need more buildings or at least ability to chose between multible buildings in some cases.
Im still not so big on idea having tribe buildings. Tribes need more meat on their bones,
but this seems little messy. And that is just my opinion.
Display Moreanother thing could be to create a King/Queen element in the game.... i tried a game where one of the missions in the game were the diplomatic/democratic part... it was cool.... it meant that its was not all about being a grand/big player....
In tentlan it could be like... that every 14 day or once a month a voting throughout all the land... to either keep the current ruler or change the ruler with a new better setup for the land of tentlan....
Every tribe has one vote... so the tribe members has to agree on that... and most important... they cant vote for their own candidate.... so the game brings more diplomatic strategy into it....
The candidate from a tribe has to put up his/her´s setup for their ruling at least one week before election so all have a chance to choice the right one....
The setup could have the power to decide ( % of attack limit between big and small players.../ numbers of attacks pr day on same player..../ use of free transfer of troops.../ and so on and so..... there is many types of changes that could be made... the more there is the more fun and tricky... it will be funny to see the outcome of the vote....
When a King/queen has been elected.... their ruling setup will start... and cant be changed until next election..... and perhabs the tribes enjoy the way the rules are... or is mispleased... so a new type of ruling and King/queen needs to be in place.....
Just some ideas.... :))))
If players gets more influence in the gameplay.... they are also more villing to not just quit.... but actually try fighting back and also use some money.... so our dear devs can use more time on evolving this great game.....
Thing is that I actually see this beneficial to multi accounts that can just spam tribes to vote one of their accounts. Then make rules that fit their strategy.
We just had discussion about this in tribe page. That might be your intention. Still right now in my tribe we have seen that poloms need q/s support as well.
So here is the proof. With no poloms you have 4.000 military units. To give them 30% bonus. You need 40.000 Quipucamayoc. Still with them I only get 26%. Thats because 500 poloms. On other hand I do have 45.000 shamans and I do get 30% max bonus with them. So that means Poloms do count as military units. Unless you consider this bug and you fix it.
It means what it says. if you have 500 jaguars and 500 poloms. Then you need 10.000 q/s
I have faith on you. It has taken many years for some games to get to the point they are now. Its same for this one. Crop changing was really good signal for the future. Even if I thought it wasent best interest for this game.
Anyways I and some of us still have faith, hopes and dreams for the better future of tentlan.
I would prefer if.... the transfer of units between any accounts would not be possible... especially between accounts that is not in same tribe.. (it gives no sense)... and IF there should be any transfers allowed... it should only be with the Poloms and Pochtecas (to be able to aid one who has been wiped out)... not any attacking troops...
Im all for no transfers. Some type unit selling could work. BUT units have to be higher in cost when buying them and players selling units should not get more res than they use to building them. This means some res has to go waste when "buying" troops. Free transfers kill the game. So no for them
This would still help with building ques.. that should be enough as an bonus.
The battle system : I played a game, where i saw a new system...and i must say it was pretty good... gave the game a new dimension...
A unit had two strenght lvl´s.... one for defence... and one for attack... and the defence strength where higher then attack strength...
so if 10.000 lancers attacked 10.000 lancers.... the attacker would lose... it made it alot harder to attack and needed alot more strategy for the player....
An attacking player is always online and a defensiv player can be offline.... so giving a defensive player a benefit is fair for the game....
Having attack and def strength would be exalent feature for the game, but I really would hope there would be 3 types of units. Def heavy, attack heavy and balanced. Here balanced units are not best for attack or defense.. but can do both jobs fairly well. If we add unit combo bonuses with certain units.. this system would be GOLD!
Reason for this is that we would gain so much depth in this game that it lacks right now. We would have clear defensive players, attack players and core players. This would also help community to get stronger since strong individual would become more dependent on groups behind them.
Can I ask what you hope to achieve in terms of battle system and tribe features? What kind of statements need to be true in ideal working system that you are aiming for.. Maybe we could help by tossing few ideas..
When server came out I was really considering to join. Yet pretty soon I realized its going to be click-click activity game. If you dont have the time.. people should consider to stay out. I did..
Its matter of perspective I ques..
Gifting troops really do hurt this game. I agree with that. On other hand Tambo is great. Yet because it works inside your tribe only. Its not enough for the community as it is.
Devs have lots of work in tribe and community features.. Army on other hand needs number of soft caps.. Right now army building takes too long. Meaning rebuilding is almost impossible without unreasonable help.
In Fi Mayapan we had Aktiivit tribe that was made virtually by one player. (1 player 10-14 accounts) 200k hunters 5000 jaguars + other units together in multiple accounts. We managed to kill those. Most of the troops (1/4) was in one account so after killing those all 12 accounts went inactive the same time. To be sure I killed those as they went gray. Just saying that some times we can do things by yourself too.
What servers do you play on Pinkki Barbaari?
Before it was Mayapan Finland now International mazatlan (nordic) server. My tiny account manages to do fine there..
and there is no problem storage being red. It means you have more food than yor storage is.. red is good color in this situation
Ok, good to know.
Large capacity of corn is always welcomed. Still I hope you wont raise it this much.
If im correct Base production is same but max space is double what it was.. Why the change?
Tap should contain attacks/defense reports. And hold 50-100 most recent reports and +10 most recent events.. Maybe filter options for reports and news events.
If your opponent has 1 level over you then your changes for report decrease a lot. Try to spy with 50-125 spies. If it dosent work. Then so be it. Try another day. Luck may be on your side then. But building one more spy level would be obvious help. 4 more and report is more certain.
Personally I think spying sucks in this game. Devs should re think this and improve the existing one.
Village has no troops but has wall. If wall isint breached then fight ends with tie.
Village has more troops and wall. Attacking/spying units die.
